Can you clarify 'open modders beta' please? Will this be a limited signup or how will that work?
Current plan is to have it open. Mentioning modders is because really that what we'll want testing at that time (although that doesn't mean we expect no feedback about anything else).
Something is wrong...
I saw this right now ,
and this is what i call bad markting.
Video image is bad, color are bad, come on, i want physics and FFB but i want good graphics too....
It's a promo video based on the movie, Grand Prix. Many may even recognize specific camera placements.
Tim, please give us a video of real ingame quality. 30 seconds is enough.
That one is very poor even if based in a movie....
If you want legitimate ingame quality from an unfinished beta software which incomplete testing status and WIP effects just so you can tell us how it doesn't look right, even though we know it doesn't look right, because it isn't how it even looks when it is right, then I'm not sure I understand why. I would focus on what you CAN see in the video. You are seeing mirage heat haze on the track surface, you are seeing heat haze behind cars, you are seeing much improved shadowing, you are seeing the physics as best as they can be shown and some awesome content, while paying homage to one of the greatest racing movies and eras of motorsports in history.
Edit: But, I'll see what I can do. It might have to be in an F3 car though, they're enormous fun.
edit 2: saying the same thing in two places, not sure which said it better, but worth reading the other maybe... http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.ph...ll=1#post14009
I personally don't believe in videos showing physics. It's possible, yes, but I believe I could video myself driving an arcade game realistically (that's the main difference, whether you drive realistically or not, because I'm pretty sure I could make the physics look terrible if I had wheel lag, or just slow hands). But I see what you want, will see what I can do.
You can't determine physics from watching a video. I've never understood how people can look at a few seconds of a cockpit view video and say this or that about the handling of a car in a game/sim.
Wow, nice to have someone agree with me on that. Didn't expect that.
I'm not going to let my personal opinion stop me from doing what's wanted though.
Yes i can.
But since you can't, when you have the software, how do you judge the physics, you just fire a lap eyes closed and feel the ffb ? It's all about the correct representation of your actions/interactions into the screen.
You observe a video of real racing and you can't see when the car slides or not ? Oversteering, understeering ?
Can't you see, physics here are not right representation of real deal. Hotlapping like crazy using a keyboard (meaning full pressure on throttle, braking) ?
Now this is a video of me in rFactor and even i reckon at 1mn55 something is wrong, the curb should have punished for the touch i did. This is a way better representation of real driving.
rFactor 2 and it's 400 hz physic engine and better ffb should even be way better than this and hopefully avoid this kind of behavior in this video :
2mn35 the car goes in oversteering and i catch it quick but i fight a code and i act 2 times to get it back.
Just watching this 5 sec in the straight line and i know what kind of "physics" i shall have...
Everybody has a different style and that is going to show different handling characteristics. I already had people excited just because I managed to catch a slide in a video of rF2. They all said how much of a big step it was because that wasn't possible in rF1, but I've always felt capable of catching them in rF1 (at least in the ISI-made cars), too.
Oversteer and understeer proves nothing, except that (among other reasons) you either have too much throttle, too little front wing, the setup is bad or your driving is bad. Again, what does seeing that prove about physics? I used to do glorious powerslides back in 1998 in GPL, but there's room for improvement, no?
As I said, it's about being the driver when it comes to appreciating the physics. Otherwise, why would you even buy simulations? Just watch youtube and enjoy those physics...
I enjoy watching videos of real deal, specialy the kind i posted yesterday, the go pro one.
But maybe it can be fun to be the one who's drivin ?? I guess you did not watch my videos entirely, i have fun behind the wheel, it's quiet obvious when you see my videos.
Question : How is it right now in rF2, less convincing than this or better ?