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    Special settings = best laptimes ???

    Hi,
    months ago someone raod at rfactorcentral forum that he has found out very special ingame settings for sensibility and so one. He said that ther is a special combination of all settings which will make you about 2 seconds faster on a track. He also siad if he changes just one of those settings he will be around 2 seconds slower again. He didnīt publish the setting and the thread was closed at all.

    So simple question: Could it be that he was right? Is there a special combination of ingame settings that will give you a speed advantage?

    Background of my question is that we due often some events in our league, different mods, different tracks. There is a team of four players which which joins us then. And they are in every qualifying very, very close together on position 1 to 4. Difference from P1 to P4 is under half a second, and difference from 1 to 5 is allways around 2 or more seconds. This can be luck or competence, but allways the same four people on different mods and tracks?

    What do you think?
    Best regards
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    Cheating, experience in racing, better hardware... if they are doing that all the time, then it is not about having a bit of luck ;-)

    Having good setup, with good fps levels (above 70-80, preferably more than 100), low or non existant input lag, comapared to slow and laggy PC with 30fps will make huge, like day and night difference.
    For me, having less than 50fps is just uncomfortable. I just don't feel that confident because rF is not that smooth like when you have 80 or more fps.

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    LMAO. I upgraded my computer and went from 20 FPS to 60....my times are still the same.
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    If you did not noticed any improvement, then that does not mean no one will... especially, when at 20fps FFB already acts noticably different. So, maybe I should LMAO? ;-)

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    My FFB feels the same
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    When I bought a new machine, went from a 1.8ghz single processor to a quad-core 2.8 ghz system, I didn't get much faster but I was way more consistent.

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    I think people get used to low frame rates and somehow manage good times. I don't personally know how they do it but they do. A friend of mine had a rig that got no more the 35 and would drop as low as 15 at times. He somehow made it work. I on the other hand couldn't keep it on the track. I am normally significantly faster. This friend now has a new rig and I am still significantly faster. Like beatnik, my friend got more consistent.

    The longer you race the more you realize you have to learn. Practice practice practice. I do firmly believe there is some natural talent there too. Setups can help, some cars/tracks more then others. But track time helps the most. The only "setting" I can think of that may improve laptimes would be disabling VSync so controller lag is eliminated. But that helps more with consistency then raw laptimes. I can't tell you how many times I have seen guys run significant'y faster and I just can't figure out how. I keep practicing and then end up surpassing them. Check out rFVCRMerge. It lets you overlay two (or more) laps in sort of a ghost replay where you can get a better idea of where one driver is gaining time.

    Here is an example of what rFVCRMerge does:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGcbiKFTU6s

    You can see I am loosing time on the exit of the final turn. With that long strait it is critical to get a good run off that last turn.

    Oh and here is another cool example. This is everyones fastest qualifying lap all merged into one:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHKAodm3-FM

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    Also keep in mind that setup development can be accelerated when you have 4 guys sharing thoughts and doing lost of testing. Also sharing thoughts on driving line, brake points and stuff like that can help. I would suggest befriending these guys and picking their brains.

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    Yep, 4 guys testing and sharing ideas goes a long way.
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    A good setup can easily mean the difference of 2 seconds faster lap time. I remember someone sent me their setup for Sardian and my time improved almost 2 seconds as I just could not get a good setup going for that track (not that I'm a great driver either lol). So thanks to he-who-will-rename-nameless I was able to at least tag-up behind the big boys (notwithstanding a severely scratched/dented car by the end of the race).
    Please see the FAQ section for solutions to common issues

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    Could also be Psy-ops. Messing with heads is part of online gaming. Although it may get you called a cheater, and subsequently banned for no legitimate reason.

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    Ok, ok, clear so far.
    By the way, our actual mod is Porsche PCC2007, hard to drive and hard to brake. But the frantic four are in front of all...
    I know that they do a lot of testing season and that they share the setups, maybe that is simple said the reason for all.
    If practise is the key, then i have a lot or work infont of me!!!
    Best regards
    Quo-Fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by LesiU View Post
    Having good setup, with good fps levels (above 70-80, preferably more than 100)
    Having more than 60/65 fps is useless as human eye doesn't note any difference. It is definitely better to have a solid 60 fps with v-sync on (which avoids image tearing). There's indeed a lot of difference from driving with 30 (or less) fps and 60: probably not in laptimes, but the global experience is much smoother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uff View Post
    Having more than 60/65 fps is useless as human eye doesn't note any difference. It is definitely better to have a solid 60 fps with v-sync on (which avoids image tearing). There's indeed a lot of difference from driving with 30 (or less) fps and 60: probably not in laptimes, but the global experience is much smoother.
    I can see even a difference between 100 / 200 and 300 FPS, i can test and reproduce that as often i want!
    VSync increased input latency which cost you laptime!
    >100 FPS we cannot expet wonders but i definately do not want to play with less than this.

    But i agree that vsync enabled feels like 100 FPS when @60 FPS, thats cause images are ordered and with same timegap between them beeing rendered.
    but this increased the latency and thats not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo View Post
    I can see even a difference between 100 / 200 and 300 FPS.
    bull****.

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    Lol, whats wrong with you?
    I bet 10.000 $ that i can see the difference immediately,
    there is a big difference between computer games and movies!

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    You honestly care if your sim is running at 200 fps instead of 300? Anyway, I thought the human eye couldn't tell at that rate

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    Hardware. I'm talking about steering wheel, pedals, gears, and..yes a good driving position. With a good setup (really important) you can feel great difference IMHO.

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    TBH the gap between 200 and 300 is a small, but its noticable.
    ~100 FPS -> smooth
    >150 FPS -> smooth as butter
    >200 FPS -> smooth as hell

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