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GauchoRS
01-23-12, 01:03 PM
Switching from fullscreen mode to windowed mode nearly doubled the framerate on 3 installations I know from (INTEL, AMD, ATI grafic cards). So give it a try and please report here if you have success.

Obs.: I noticed that in 'native resolution' of the monitor, rFactor2 (windowed mode) will not show the classical border of the window.

Mitt Wilson
01-23-12, 01:08 PM
:) I dont think its about boosting your frame rate its more of a balancing act- getting 60 fps with good graphics is better than 100 with horrible graphics.

F2kSel
01-23-12, 01:09 PM
Mine does that but makes the stutter worse so I try and avoid it.

GauchoRS
01-23-12, 01:58 PM
:) I dont think its about boosting your frame rate its more of a balancing act- getting 60 fps with good graphics is better than 100 with horrible graphics.

agreed, but I did not change any graphic setting, but got 30 fps with high settings in fullscreen. In windowed mode itīs running now between 50 and 60 fps

Jorgen
01-23-12, 02:52 PM
I just tested this on WinXP, and I didn't notice any difference in FPS at all. However, one thing I did notice is that when I ran in full screen, the configuration set in the nVidia control panel took effect, while it didn't when running windowed. (Even though it looks exactly like fullscreen) If you have higher quality settings in the graphics control panel profile than in the rFconfig settings, that would explain the FPS boost. Nonetheless, it's an interesting experiment to try. :)

Mitt Wilson
01-23-12, 02:57 PM
I just tested this on WinXP, and I didn't notice any difference in FPS at all. However, one thing I did notice is that when I ran in full screen, the configuration set in the nVidia control panel took effect, while it didn't when running windowed. (Even though it looks exactly like fullscreen) If you have higher quality settings in the graphics control panel profile than in the rFconfig settings, that would explain the FPS boost. Nonetheless, it's an interesting experiment to try. :)

Yeah Increasing all video card settings to max and then rasing or lowering the graphics from in game get ]the best results fr FPS and Graphics.

Alex Ball
01-23-12, 02:58 PM
No difference for me, either.

TiTaN
01-23-12, 03:02 PM
I boosted my framerate and lag free since I underclocked my CPU to stock (quadcore 2.66Ghz) weird hein? and then applied new OC settings. result -> for rFactor its the same 2.66 or 3.4 Ghz lol

hoover
01-23-12, 03:17 PM
I boosted my framerate and lag free since I underclocked my CPU to stock (quadcore 2.66Ghz) weird hein? and then applied new OC settings. result -> for rFactor its the same 2.66 or 3.4 Ghz lol

That actually makes sense considering the cpu is more or less idling (the load on any core never exceeds 30% or so) in rF2.

Cheers, Uwe

Nielty
01-23-12, 03:35 PM
I just tried to run RF2 in windowed mode and my FPS decreases with 10FPS so for me it does not work

mikeyk1985
01-23-12, 04:59 PM
Who would want to play a game in a window? Minesweeper is the only game that can get away with being in windowed mode.

F2kSel
01-23-12, 05:04 PM
As I said it does work for me and I don't need to run windowed to get the boost. But as I get lag after doing it it's not really an option. I think it only works for ATI cards.

jubuttib
01-23-12, 05:06 PM
Tried in Win7 and it is indeed a huge improvement for me. I used to run with mostly a high mid setting without AA, 8x AF (shadows high, blur off, rain drops on, others off) and was getting a consistently staying above 30 FPS with 19 AI cars (20 cars visible), starting from the back row at Mills. With this I could put everything on high, turn shadows to max, turn blur on, set AF to 16x and AA to Level 3 (helps with the various hanging wires around Mills), turn road reflection on and still had consistently over 30 fps during start at Mills with 19 AI cars. Didn't even slow down in the first corner, and after that the FPS got better, to around 60 by the first straight. Everything on Full/Max with Environment Reflections and Wind & Crowd Motions turned out to be a bit too much still, especially with AA Lvl3, but it's definitely a great improvement.

Thanks for the tip!

Navigator
01-23-12, 05:43 PM
Strange, here a reduction of 25 to 30 FPS (!!) even with the Nvidia settings to low.

Thanks for the tip anyway; was worth a try!

jtbo
01-23-12, 05:54 PM
Who would want to play a game in a window? Minesweeper is the only game that can get away with being in windowed mode.

I'm hardly ever running rFactor on full screen, all mod dev work I do on window as if I accidently make error when editing files and rfactor freezes it is a lot easier to shut down, also lot easier to open files and do any of such stuff when running windowed, alt-tab is always such a risky thing that I don't use that at all, not with any game.

With rF1 I get half the fps when windowed mode, nice to know that rF2 is better windowed, but there goes hope from improvements in frame rate too for me as I have always used windowed mode in rF2.

I'll take fps over pretty slide show any day though :D

jubuttib
01-23-12, 06:14 PM
Who would want to play a game in a window? Minesweeper is the only game that can get away with being in windowed mode.When I set the game to run in a window at my monitors native resolution, the borders don't show up on the monitor, so it looks exactly like running it full screen. The only way to tell that it's running in a window at all is that I can click out of the program without the associated screen flashes and stability problems, and my secondary monitor shows the border. So the border is there, but the window is adjusted to fit the screen you're playing on perfectly.

And yeah, using AMD Radeon HD6870. When I've adjusted everything so that the game doesn't stutter and is playable even in a worst case scenario (20 cars bundled up in a tight corner with collisions happening everywhere) when windowed, and go back to fullscreen, the game loses about 20% FPS, and stuttering starts to happen.

jubuttib
01-23-12, 06:16 PM
With rF1 I get half the fps when windowed mode, nice to know that rF2 is better windowed, but there goes hope from improvements in frame rate too for me as I have always used windowed mode in rF2.

I'll take fps over pretty slide show any day though :DYou're running an nVidia card, and it seems that the trend is that only ATI/AMD cards get this performance boost, nVidia works best fullscreen.

Nils
01-23-12, 06:45 PM
That actually makes sense considering the cpu is more or less idling

On my system this is not correct. My dual-core 2.66 GHz has big problems, framerate offline was about 20 and got up to 40 when I overclocked to about 3 GHz. Graphic settings donīt have a big impact on my framerate.
But I had problems with full cpu load on rFactor 1 and Simbinīs offspring too...
The windowed mode didnīt change anything (nVidia 285 GTX)

AlanBernardo
01-23-12, 08:44 PM
Switching from fullscreen mode to windowed mode nearly doubled the framerate on 3 installations I know from (INTEL, AMD, ATI grafic cards). So give it a try and please report here if you have success.

Obs.: I noticed that in 'native resolution' of the monitor, rFactor2 (windowed mode) will not show the classical border of the window.

I don't know how things work with ATI cards, but with nVidia going to windowed mode almost always lowers frame rates, and rather significantly too.


Alan

F2kSel
01-23-12, 08:56 PM
I don't know how things work with ATI cards, but with nVidia going to windowed mode almost always lowers frame rates, and rather significantly too.


Alan


It's usually the same with ATI cards, it just highlights the fact that something is messed up. I actually don't get the performance boost in windows but I do get it when I go back into the game after alt-tabing out.

jubuttib
01-23-12, 09:02 PM
I wanted to add that while the windowing trick definitely helped, part of the improvement might be due to the fact that I just upgraded from Catalyst 11.12 to 12.1 beta, and hadn't checked performance before testing the game windowed.

F2kSel
01-23-12, 09:36 PM
It does seem to be a Catalyst 12.1 bug, I just tried it in pcars everything on max 15AI back of the grid 22fps drop to desktop and back 45fps the only difference is that in pcars there is no stutter with the higher fps.

I'm also not convinced that changing the settings in Catalyst 12.1 are actually having any graphical effect trunning up the quality doesn't seem to help the looks.

Nunzio
01-23-12, 11:52 PM
I tried the 12.1 drivers and they did not increase performance. I went back to 11.12 because they are better for me. Actually I tried windowed mode and it did gain about 8-10 frames average. All settings on high, shadows med. It averages 34-40 Fps with 6 AI for me as well.

My system:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Dell - XPS 630i
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9650 @ 3.00GHz, 3000 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date Dell Inc. 1.0.13, 5/5/2009
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
ATI Radeon HD 4870 1 Gig v-card

barrett
01-24-12, 12:41 AM
Yes, i got the boost in windowed mode as well -- maybe 20fps.

Also noticed that rF2 seems to run better for me with higher graphics settings ("use application" where possible) for the details and textures. And enabling vsync made it smoother.

CPU: 3.0 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory: 8 GB
Video Card: AMD 6970 (12.1 drivers)
Video Memory: 2G
Operating Sys: Win7 64bit

phil23
01-24-12, 06:26 AM
I'll give this a try when I'm next at my gaming rig. I used to run GTR2 in windowed mode as it wouldn't alt-tab out of the game when I wanted to change the games processor affinity.

I'll post back with my results;).

AlanBernardo
01-25-12, 08:20 PM
Here's what I did to get decent frames. It's really simple and along with lowering AA is going to give one the best boost in frames.

My native resolution is 1650x1050-- that's 16:10. I tried 1400x900, but that didn't do enough. I went into windows and added a 1280x800, which is also along the lines of 16:10 (widescreen).

That resolution gave me the feel I wanted. No more lagging or minimal stuttering. And honestly and at least from my standpoint, things look pretty much the same, only a tad bigger.

The trade-off of graphics to performance works for me.


Alan

barrett
01-27-12, 09:36 AM
Update after letting Windows catch up with all the updates i'd skipped and loading the ATI 12.2 preview drivers...

The bad news is:
the advantage to windowed mode has gone.

The good news is:
the full screen mode is performing as well as the windowed mode had before.

navorsky
01-27-12, 09:44 AM
Iīm getting 60 ~ 90 ( sometimes 110 during replays ) fps with all settings in FULL, Opponents Detail in Medium, Filtering Trilinear ( if i raise to Anisotropic 16x it drops 20 ~ 30 from the overall ) , HDR Off @ 1920x1280 32bits AA = 1

CPU Spec:

Core 2 Duo - 2.8GHz / 4GB DDR 2 800MHZ / Geforce GTX 560 2gb DDR 5

olivier prenten
01-27-12, 01:54 PM
I run the game with HDR ticked, 1900x1200, Level 3, everything on Full ! No stutter and FPS around 95 !
Previously I had an HD5850 and I run around 45 FPS ! Now with a GTX570 the game is breathing !
Cheers,
Oli

PieterN
01-27-12, 02:16 PM
I run the game with HDR ticked, 1900x1200, Level 3, everything on Full ! No stutter and FPS around 95 !
Previously I had an HD5850 and I run around 45 FPS ! Now with a GTX570 the game is breathing !
Cheers,
Oli

Is this in solo-practice ?

AF ?
Which drivers are you using ?
And what are your settings in the nVidia control panel ?

olivier prenten
01-28-12, 09:13 AM
AF x16
Last drivers 285.62.
No change in the nvidia CP.

SimonV6
01-28-12, 09:29 AM
12.2 preview drivers are out now too, though not tried them yet, still using the 12.1 :)
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/Catalyst122Previewdriver.aspx